vinzak
06-16 12:10 PM
I have often heard about visa recapture in these forums, and always that there were lost visa numbers. I came across a DHS site yesterday with statstics on GCs issued, and must admit I am a bit confused about what visa recapture means. The site is DHS | Yearbook of Immigration Statistics: 2009 (http://www.dhs.gov/files/statistics/publications/LPR09.shtm) . Looking at table 6 (Persons Obtaining Legal Permanent Resident Status by Type and Major Class of Admission: Fiscal Years 2000 to 2009), we get the following data on EB and FB issuances.
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB 235,092 231,699 186,880 158,796 214,355 212,970 222,229 194,900 227,761 211,859 2,096,541
EB 106,642 178,702 173,814 81,727 155,330 246,877 159,081 162,176 166,511 144,034 1,574,894
Total 341,734 410,401 360,694 240,523 369,685 459,847 381,310 357,076 394,272 355,893 3,671,435
if we we were to take deltas from the fb cap of 226k and eb cap of 140k, the scenario looks as follows, where a -ive number indicates over allocation.
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB -9,092 -5,699 39,120 67,204 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 -1,761 14,141 163,459
EB 33,358 -38,702 -33,814 58,273 -15,330 -106,877 -19,081 -22,176 -26,511 -4,034 -174,894
Total 24,266 -44,401 5,306 125,477 -3,685 -93,847 -15,310 8,924 -28,272 10,107 -11,435
As we can see, cumulatively from 2000-09, 11,435 more visas have been given than actually permitted. Particularly in EB 174k excess visas were given.
I'm curious to know, what recapture means, when it seems visas have not been lost.
The only case for recapture is if we only count the years visas were under allocated, and ignore the years it was overallocated. The scenario would look as follows
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB 0 0 39,120 67,204 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 0 14,141 180,011
EB 33,358 0 0 58,273 0 0 0 0 0 0 91,631
Total 33,358 0 39,120 125,477 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 0 14,141 271,642
So are we trying to recapture 271k visas from this calculation?
If the experts could shed some light on this, that would be great.
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB 235,092 231,699 186,880 158,796 214,355 212,970 222,229 194,900 227,761 211,859 2,096,541
EB 106,642 178,702 173,814 81,727 155,330 246,877 159,081 162,176 166,511 144,034 1,574,894
Total 341,734 410,401 360,694 240,523 369,685 459,847 381,310 357,076 394,272 355,893 3,671,435
if we we were to take deltas from the fb cap of 226k and eb cap of 140k, the scenario looks as follows, where a -ive number indicates over allocation.
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB -9,092 -5,699 39,120 67,204 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 -1,761 14,141 163,459
EB 33,358 -38,702 -33,814 58,273 -15,330 -106,877 -19,081 -22,176 -26,511 -4,034 -174,894
Total 24,266 -44,401 5,306 125,477 -3,685 -93,847 -15,310 8,924 -28,272 10,107 -11,435
As we can see, cumulatively from 2000-09, 11,435 more visas have been given than actually permitted. Particularly in EB 174k excess visas were given.
I'm curious to know, what recapture means, when it seems visas have not been lost.
The only case for recapture is if we only count the years visas were under allocated, and ignore the years it was overallocated. The scenario would look as follows
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB 0 0 39,120 67,204 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 0 14,141 180,011
EB 33,358 0 0 58,273 0 0 0 0 0 0 91,631
Total 33,358 0 39,120 125,477 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 0 14,141 271,642
So are we trying to recapture 271k visas from this calculation?
If the experts could shed some light on this, that would be great.
julsun
09-27 10:19 AM
I filed for AOS in Aug 07, my attorney advised me that we could combine the checks payable to USCIS for family members (EG: in place of one check for my 485 and one more for my wife we could combine both the checks for 485 and issue a single check for twice the amount). Based on the above, i issued 1 check for 485, 1 for EAD, 1 for FP and 1 for AP.
Now my checks have been cashed and i am able to see the receipt number on the back of the cashed check. I see two receipt numbers on the back of the checks for EAD and AP however i see only 1 receipt number on the back of the check for 485 (and the same number on the back of the check for FP)
Did any body else also send combined checks? Did you get a single receipt number or multiple numbers?
Thanks.
My EAD cheques got encashed today. I had sent a single cheque for myself and my wife. I do notice two LIN numbers on the back of the cheque. BUT when i search for those numbers on USCIS website its says number DO NOT exist in the system. Has anyone faced similar issue?
Thanks
Now my checks have been cashed and i am able to see the receipt number on the back of the cashed check. I see two receipt numbers on the back of the checks for EAD and AP however i see only 1 receipt number on the back of the check for 485 (and the same number on the back of the check for FP)
Did any body else also send combined checks? Did you get a single receipt number or multiple numbers?
Thanks.
My EAD cheques got encashed today. I had sent a single cheque for myself and my wife. I do notice two LIN numbers on the back of the cheque. BUT when i search for those numbers on USCIS website its says number DO NOT exist in the system. Has anyone faced similar issue?
Thanks
james_bond_007
04-09 05:24 PM
I just received the following email from TSC. case status is also updated with a hard LUD. It seems like TSC online system is working again!!!!!!!
receipt Number: SRC07******
Application Type: I485, APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS
Current Status: Card production ordered.
On April 9, 2009, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service. You can also receive automatic e-mail updates as we process your case. Just follow the link below to register.
receipt Number: SRC07******
Application Type: I485, APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS
Current Status: Card production ordered.
On April 9, 2009, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service. You can also receive automatic e-mail updates as we process your case. Just follow the link below to register.
shana04
02-06 09:50 AM
I just wanted to bump this and get people's opinion on what paper work and other things we should be aware of by not changing the employers who sponsered our green card, but have applied for 485, have I-140 approved (180 days passed since I-140 approval and I-485 receipt dates) and received EAD/AP.
I guess lot of people are in this category. So far, the only advise I have seen is: Extend H1 instead of using EAD.
You have understand the pros and cons for H1 vs EAD
H1:
1. Expensive
2. If for some reason there is an RFE or for that matter any thing, you can always fall back on h1 and then fight for your case
3. if employer revokes I 140 in your case (it would not affect) but you know uscsis. so be careful and H1 helps
EAD:
1. Flexibility
2. more options
3. you can be out of status
4. no employer problems
5. if you have gap, when you extend. then you will be out of job
6. you cannot fall back on H1
so you need to decide.
good luck
I guess lot of people are in this category. So far, the only advise I have seen is: Extend H1 instead of using EAD.
You have understand the pros and cons for H1 vs EAD
H1:
1. Expensive
2. If for some reason there is an RFE or for that matter any thing, you can always fall back on h1 and then fight for your case
3. if employer revokes I 140 in your case (it would not affect) but you know uscsis. so be careful and H1 helps
EAD:
1. Flexibility
2. more options
3. you can be out of status
4. no employer problems
5. if you have gap, when you extend. then you will be out of job
6. you cannot fall back on H1
so you need to decide.
good luck
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justareader
10-08 07:33 PM
Well for us EB-3, hope is what we have
bloody bulletin . never moves
I am still short of 16 days.
bloody bulletin . never moves
I am still short of 16 days.
bkshres
05-11 01:11 PM
I think as long as she is pending AOS status, she should be fine. But I don't think H4 will be eligible for FAFSA. But if you filed tax jointly and your income is good then she will not get FAFSA funding, HOWEVER, she will get FAFSA loan (subsidized and unsubsidized). Subsidized loan is loan you don't pay interest until you graduate.
During FAFSA application, you need to submit I-94 and it will verify your status I believe. I have seen people getting FAFSA approval for pending AOS without any problem.
I hope this helps. You can get more information from the college she is applying for.
During FAFSA application, you need to submit I-94 and it will verify your status I believe. I have seen people getting FAFSA approval for pending AOS without any problem.
I hope this helps. You can get more information from the college she is applying for.
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skarthy
07-17 07:42 AM
Hi all,
It seems the FP notice comes in 10 to 15 day usually. I haven't gotten mine after 3 weeks. Is there a time period after which that I have to worry about the FP?
I got my receipt and credit card - money withdrawn.
Thanks
It seems the FP notice comes in 10 to 15 day usually. I haven't gotten mine after 3 weeks. Is there a time period after which that I have to worry about the FP?
I got my receipt and credit card - money withdrawn.
Thanks
asdfred
10-12 05:29 PM
no dude..it does not..there is not much it will give us..
we need visa recapture, elimination of country quota and simplification of ac21 rules
(i feel like i am asking for free beer :p)
we need visa recapture, elimination of country quota and simplification of ac21 rules
(i feel like i am asking for free beer :p)
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bekugc
04-18 04:15 PM
the main grey area for n2b is --
when he used ac21, if he had done h1 trnasfer and started work after getting h1 receipt, then there is NO qn at all that he is OK. he can work at new plc, his GC keeps going fine.
but in his case, he jumped to EAD (lost his nonimmigrant status temporarily) and is trying to jump back to H1 status.
im not sure but i think u shud be OK.
- in one of rajiv khannas free conf call. one person had used ead/ac21 and had received "intent to deny 485". he was asking rajiv what shall i do if it gets denied?.
rajiv said, u can fight ur denial for sure, but immediately ask ur company to tranfer ur h1 based on reason that u have an approved 140. and once u get recept u can continue to work and stay here and fight the denial if it happens.
when he used ac21, if he had done h1 trnasfer and started work after getting h1 receipt, then there is NO qn at all that he is OK. he can work at new plc, his GC keeps going fine.
but in his case, he jumped to EAD (lost his nonimmigrant status temporarily) and is trying to jump back to H1 status.
im not sure but i think u shud be OK.
- in one of rajiv khannas free conf call. one person had used ead/ac21 and had received "intent to deny 485". he was asking rajiv what shall i do if it gets denied?.
rajiv said, u can fight ur denial for sure, but immediately ask ur company to tranfer ur h1 based on reason that u have an approved 140. and once u get recept u can continue to work and stay here and fight the denial if it happens.
chanduv23
04-18 10:40 PM
Folks here is the deal.
A lot of people are getting denials and forced to apply for MOTIC. It could be various factors.
As USCIS is doing background processing on cases trying to preprocess cases even if priority dates are not current there seems to be cases where people are getting denials when RFEs are supposed to be sent.
Things that trigger a denial in a straightforward case
(1) July 2007 filers - those who filed in August 2007 (the filing was open till August 17th)
(2) Immigration medicals - if not included - USCIS sent a circular that people can apply without medicals and will be later requested via RFE
(3) AC21 - employer revoke 140
None of the above should trigger a denial but looks like they are triggering a denial.
It could be that there is pressure to reduce backlog as economy is not good and we all know that immigrants are scapegoats in such situations.
It could also be a training issue for new staff.
As they are trying tom speed up processing - all they might be doing is - look at the file - if something is missing or something is not right - immediately deny the case.
MTRs should resolve these cases but it is a waste of money and unnecessary tension.
A lot of people are getting denials and forced to apply for MOTIC. It could be various factors.
As USCIS is doing background processing on cases trying to preprocess cases even if priority dates are not current there seems to be cases where people are getting denials when RFEs are supposed to be sent.
Things that trigger a denial in a straightforward case
(1) July 2007 filers - those who filed in August 2007 (the filing was open till August 17th)
(2) Immigration medicals - if not included - USCIS sent a circular that people can apply without medicals and will be later requested via RFE
(3) AC21 - employer revoke 140
None of the above should trigger a denial but looks like they are triggering a denial.
It could be that there is pressure to reduce backlog as economy is not good and we all know that immigrants are scapegoats in such situations.
It could also be a training issue for new staff.
As they are trying tom speed up processing - all they might be doing is - look at the file - if something is missing or something is not right - immediately deny the case.
MTRs should resolve these cases but it is a waste of money and unnecessary tension.
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vinabath
04-07 10:30 AM
What else do you want Bro. Give 30 days time to USCIS to send your card. we, most of us, would me more satisfied just to see the magical words - Current Status: Card production ordered in our case status.
Regarding holding card in physically, have to wait some time. Which should not be more taxing than waiting to see the magical words.
I started calling my friends the same night that I got GC, but back in my mind I was still not sure and thought "whatif USCIS made a mistake" and thought may be I should wait until I get the card.
I have spent coupla nights searching forums what kind of email people get when GC approved. I found most get Approval Email and Card production. I got only one email. I am still not able to believe I got GC. It was like a distant dream few weeks ago.
Thanks
Regarding holding card in physically, have to wait some time. Which should not be more taxing than waiting to see the magical words.
I started calling my friends the same night that I got GC, but back in my mind I was still not sure and thought "whatif USCIS made a mistake" and thought may be I should wait until I get the card.
I have spent coupla nights searching forums what kind of email people get when GC approved. I found most get Approval Email and Card production. I got only one email. I am still not able to believe I got GC. It was like a distant dream few weeks ago.
Thanks
meridiani.planum
03-12 02:46 PM
the only way to extend the H1 is to:
- have an LC >365 days old
- her I-140 approved
Without either of those she does not qualify for H1 extensions. Best bet if EAD takes longer than 4 more months (should not, most people have got it within 90 days) and she cannot stop working for a while might be to try and recapture time spent abroad (to fully utilize the 6 years). If you were on vacation or travelling on business, hten all those days spent abroad can be used as additional H1 time. if thats been 4-5 months in ht elast 6 years, it might be worth recapturing...
WTF? A red-dot for this post??? Will the coward who marked me red for this please have the decency to explain why? I have deserved red on other posts (& even got some) but what on earth was wrong here?
- have an LC >365 days old
- her I-140 approved
Without either of those she does not qualify for H1 extensions. Best bet if EAD takes longer than 4 more months (should not, most people have got it within 90 days) and she cannot stop working for a while might be to try and recapture time spent abroad (to fully utilize the 6 years). If you were on vacation or travelling on business, hten all those days spent abroad can be used as additional H1 time. if thats been 4-5 months in ht elast 6 years, it might be worth recapturing...
WTF? A red-dot for this post??? Will the coward who marked me red for this please have the decency to explain why? I have deserved red on other posts (& even got some) but what on earth was wrong here?
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sledge_hammer
09-26 10:15 AM
How inconsiderate of you; you just hijacked someone elses's thread and to top it all you are spamming it trying to get an answer. Your question is also totally unrelated to this thread topic!
Why don't you search the forum for answers and if none is available then post a new thread...
Can the experts please reply to my question? Thanks,
Why don't you search the forum for answers and if none is available then post a new thread...
Can the experts please reply to my question? Thanks,
kbsyed61
04-07 05:35 PM
Sorry to hear about marital discord. Do talk to your attorney and see what steps needed to be taken further.
My advice, first concentrate on your family. Do try to resolve the issues with your wife. Do give preference to your daughter. Green Cards / Work permits can be obtained later also. Don't worry too much about the GC.
My advice, first concentrate on your family. Do try to resolve the issues with your wife. Do give preference to your daughter. Green Cards / Work permits can be obtained later also. Don't worry too much about the GC.
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SunnySurya
06-13 10:33 AM
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Hi All,
We are devastated. We got robbed last weekend. We lost everything including our green cards. After 6 years of wait, we got the cards in May. Unfortunately, we did not make any photocopies. We applied for replacement of cards using I-90 forms. Has anyone been in such a situation ?
Please help us with any suggestions.
Thanking you all.
Hi All,
We are devastated. We got robbed last weekend. We lost everything including our green cards. After 6 years of wait, we got the cards in May. Unfortunately, we did not make any photocopies. We applied for replacement of cards using I-90 forms. Has anyone been in such a situation ?
Please help us with any suggestions.
Thanking you all.
sledge_hammer
07-11 02:06 PM
Jakub (glus),
Good job on getting our message across. Good picture too! Finally we are seeing some faces behind the screen names.
http://www.nyjournalnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070711/NEWS02/707110350
Funny? See below:
http://wwwapps.ups.com/WebTracking/processInputRequest?HTMLVersion=5.0&sort_by=status&tracknums_displayed=5&TypeOfInquiryNumber=T&loc=en_US&AgreeToTermsAndConditions=yes&InquiryNumber1=1ZE19A16P204195432
The message was IV template...
Glus
Good job on getting our message across. Good picture too! Finally we are seeing some faces behind the screen names.
http://www.nyjournalnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070711/NEWS02/707110350
Funny? See below:
http://wwwapps.ups.com/WebTracking/processInputRequest?HTMLVersion=5.0&sort_by=status&tracknums_displayed=5&TypeOfInquiryNumber=T&loc=en_US&AgreeToTermsAndConditions=yes&InquiryNumber1=1ZE19A16P204195432
The message was IV template...
Glus
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chanduy9
07-05 11:47 AM
Hi Guys,
We have do it in a smart way. We need to get the atten of media.
Send the flowers on july 10th. If lot of people do this the media will cover this.
Just my idea.
Thanks,
Chandra.
We have do it in a smart way. We need to get the atten of media.
Send the flowers on july 10th. If lot of people do this the media will cover this.
Just my idea.
Thanks,
Chandra.
austingc
09-01 10:21 AM
Thank you for your help in this regard. My attorney submitted
1. Expert Opinion Letter
2. University Letter
and the I-140 RFE was cleared in 2 days and got the approval today (per USCIS case status).
Mine was PP.
That’s great news. Congratulations.
1. Expert Opinion Letter
2. University Letter
and the I-140 RFE was cleared in 2 days and got the approval today (per USCIS case status).
Mine was PP.
That’s great news. Congratulations.
davequick
June 13th, 2005, 09:10 AM
If so, what are you using? I'm using a Nikon 60mm f/2.8 AF-D micro, the usual reversers, the extension rings, etc. But I think I'm going to be buying myself some more working distance and invest in a 200mm f/4 micro - have you been happier with anything cheaper than this solution on your nikon?
Has anyone tried the Canon screw in diopter adjustment lenses for 77mm filter size Nikon lenses?
This is a 60mm Macro shot...
http://photos12.flickr.com/19036365_8e803b1850_o.jpg
This is the same 60mm lens but with three extension tubes (pk11, pk12, pk13) stacked to increase magnification of the lens.
http://photos15.flickr.com/19036354_635a76c9e9_o.jpg
Has anyone tried the Canon screw in diopter adjustment lenses for 77mm filter size Nikon lenses?
This is a 60mm Macro shot...
http://photos12.flickr.com/19036365_8e803b1850_o.jpg
This is the same 60mm lens but with three extension tubes (pk11, pk12, pk13) stacked to increase magnification of the lens.
http://photos15.flickr.com/19036354_635a76c9e9_o.jpg
amsgc
06-15 12:08 AM
Hi,
After filing I-485/EAD/AP in July, if wife's current student status expires (in Oct) before the EAD card arrives, then what will be her status?
Will we need to file for H4?
Thanks,
Ams
After filing I-485/EAD/AP in July, if wife's current student status expires (in Oct) before the EAD card arrives, then what will be her status?
Will we need to file for H4?
Thanks,
Ams
americandesi
03-13 05:34 PM
This is the danger with a "green card shop" company. They constantly have people joining and leaving them. Not a problem for H-1b but a major problem with GC processing.
Here is an example with company X which has ability pay for up to 50 employees at any point.
X applies 30 I-140s in 2005 [less than 50]
X applies 25 I-140s in 2006, and 20 of the 2005 count have quit. Total employees are less than 50.
X applies 30 I-140s in 2007, and another 20 have quit. Total employees are less than 50.
One would think since they have less than 50 empoyees and ability to pay for 50 employees, they are safe. This will work for H-1b, but not for GCs.
Since GC is for future employment, the company is required to have the ability to pay all 85 employees after they become permanent residents. It does not matter if they have quit the company. The asumption is all 85 will be employed by X on GC approval and so X is expected to be able to pay all of them.
This is what has happened here. When such a problem comes up, then they can (and sometimes do) pull back previously approved 140s too.
Most employees who leave the GC sponsoring employer either invoke AC21 or port their PD�s with another employer. Hence the GC sponsoring employer could very well go ahead and withdraw their I-140�s so that they are no longer burdened to prove ATP for all ex-employees.
Here is an example with company X which has ability pay for up to 50 employees at any point.
X applies 30 I-140s in 2005 [less than 50]
X applies 25 I-140s in 2006, and 20 of the 2005 count have quit. Total employees are less than 50.
X applies 30 I-140s in 2007, and another 20 have quit. Total employees are less than 50.
One would think since they have less than 50 empoyees and ability to pay for 50 employees, they are safe. This will work for H-1b, but not for GCs.
Since GC is for future employment, the company is required to have the ability to pay all 85 employees after they become permanent residents. It does not matter if they have quit the company. The asumption is all 85 will be employed by X on GC approval and so X is expected to be able to pay all of them.
This is what has happened here. When such a problem comes up, then they can (and sometimes do) pull back previously approved 140s too.
Most employees who leave the GC sponsoring employer either invoke AC21 or port their PD�s with another employer. Hence the GC sponsoring employer could very well go ahead and withdraw their I-140�s so that they are no longer burdened to prove ATP for all ex-employees.
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